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Guys of Lidar
06-22-2009, 03:14 PM,
#1
Guys of Lidar
Okay, I need a little advice on this one.

Laser interceptors, honestly I'm not yet that fond of it, not yet perhaps.

Although I would like to ask if its that effective or not, I'd like us to first discuss this.

GOL

Are these guys for real or are they just ripping off?

They even have paypal for people to donate on them and they say they're working out good laser interceptors not for profits but because they just wanted too?

I find they're advertisement of laser interceptors really moving and seems like real but the part for donation is what makes them going kind of makes is fishy don't you think?
06-22-2009, 04:59 PM,
#2
RE: Guys of Lidar
Yea, good point....one I had not really thought of before, myself.

To the best of my knowledge (and I DO believe this 100%) the "GOL" boys are not being paid by any manufacturers to test or promote products. Unlike SML who charge a fee for any manufacturer to participate at their tests, or Craig Peterson whom has/is/was being paid by Escort, the GOL do this out of their own passion (of which I totally relate).

Conducting these sorts of test though, are very expensive and time consuming. Even if you own all the test equipment already, and can access a bunch of product to test, it takes a lot of time to accurately conduct these types of tests.

Here at DelonixRadar (for example) we often "blind purchase" retail products we may not already sell, as well as using "off the shelf" retail products we do sell. We also fly (who's become a good friend) a guy over each year from the other side of Australia. Then there is the many many hours of video rendering....

So I fully understand the effort & expense GOL goto, to provide the community with the data they do. If they wish to include a paypal donate button to try and collect a little bit of money to supplement their costs, then I fully support this, and do not see it as fishy in the slightest.

Why are you not fond of Laser Interceptor?

(DelonixRadar) used to be avid supporters of the Blinder M20 years ago, mainly because we had to rely on the feedback of people like Radar Roy from radarbusters, John Turner from Tiger Lily products and SML. Once we bought our own test equipment including 3 lidar guns, we found (through our own testing) that not all the results / reviews we had bought into (originally) were 100% accurate.

The GOL seem to be the only independent testing group out there besides ourselves (granted people will jump immediately and say DelonixRadar are not independant since we sell product) but we are not governed by any manufacture's payroll like some other companies are. In fact some retailers have been told they will have their accounts closed (by certain manufactures) if they sell (certain other manufacturer's) products.

For example, we used to sell Blinder M20 - quoting it as the best laser jammer there was. But in our testings, we found that a diode based jammer will work better at closer ranges. And in our testing, the Laser Interceptor was the best. So we changed our recommendations based on these results.

Similar experience with the Conqueror M18. This product has gone through many updates and name changes through it's lifespan. Years ago, the company making this jammer called it the Mimic. Almost every report you read from USA sellers (Radar Roy, John Turner, Carl Fors & Craig Peterson) quoted this jammer as being "crap" - and consequently we based our recommendations on these guy's reviews.

When we were sent an updated version of this jammer (now renamed the Conqueror M18) from the same manufacturer, we were looking forward to "showing how poorly this product worked". Turns out the product does pretty damn good. Actually extremely good considering the price.

And despite claims from one of our competitors that it (the M18) is an old model, the Conqueror M18 was one of the few laser jammers that actually jammerd the latest LTI truspeed in our November 2008 3-day laser jammer test.

The GF100, Anti-Laser G9 and the Laser Pro Park all had zero effect on this laser gun. So we were pretty impressed with (the M18) and therefore, recommend it for those that don't have the budget for a diode based laser jammer.

Hope that helps??
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07-15-2009, 11:59 AM,
#3
RE: Guys of Lidar
Hey, I've just also stumbled upon the site of theses Guys Of Lidar, whatever that means. I don't see any problem with them but I have to admit, its not like someone will do expensive things like that for free.
07-15-2009, 12:06 PM,
#4
RE: Guys of Lidar
(07-15-2009, 11:59 AM)takatenamano Wrote: but I have to admit, its not like someone will do expensive things like that for free.
Yea I don't agree with that one takatenamano (although, of course, each to their own Smile ) there would be thousands of people in the world doing volunteer work for free - heck, there was even a story on a current affairs show on TV here 2 nights ago about an elderly couple that spend $1000's of their own money treating sick animals in their make shift animal hospital / property.

If you have the passion, you'll do many things for free / with your own money.

These guys love testing these gadgets (I can relate) and they probably also enjoy the small amount of notoriety and respect they now get from doing so.
DelonixRadar - your no BS, unbiased resource on radar detector, and speed camera products.
07-20-2009, 12:21 AM, (This post was last modified: 07-20-2009, 12:42 AM by nakchura.)
#5
RE: Guys of Lidar
(06-22-2009, 03:14 PM)savvyeyty Wrote: Okay, I need a little advice on this one.

Laser interceptors, honestly I'm not yet that fond of it, not yet perhaps.

Although I would like to ask if its that effective or not, I'd like us to first discuss this.

GOL

Are these guys for real or are they just ripping off?

They even have paypal for people to donate on them and they say they're working out good laser interceptors not for profits but because they just wanted too?

I find they're advertisement of laser interceptors really moving and seems like real but the part for donation is what makes them going kind of makes is fishy don't you think?
Hi! I was intrigued of these people you mention about and made a little search about them in the internet. They do have a cool site and the service they're offering is really cool. Now I wonder if they're doing it for free or for some bigger fish. With how things are going on now its hard to give giveaways you know.
(06-22-2009, 04:59 PM)Delonix Wrote: Yea, good point....one I had not really thought of before, myself.

To the best of my knowledge (and I DO believe this 100%) the "GOL" boys are not being paid by any manufacturers to test or promote products. Unlike SML who charge a fee for any manufacturer to participate at their tests, or Craig Peterson whom has/is/was being paid by Escort, the GOL do this out of their own passion (of which I totally relate).

Conducting these sorts of test though, are very expensive and time consuming. Even if you own all the test equipment already, and can access a bunch of product to test, it takes a lot of time to accurately conduct these types of tests.

Here at DelonixRadar (for example) we often "blind purchase" retail products we may not already sell, as well as using "off the shelf" retail products we do sell. We also fly (who's become a good friend) a guy over each year from the other side of Australia. Then there is the many many hours of video rendering....

So I fully understand the effort & expense GOL goto, to provide the community with the data they do. If they wish to include a paypal donate button to try and collect a little bit of money to supplement their costs, then I fully support this, and do not see it as fishy in the slightest.

Why are you not fond of Laser Interceptor?

(DelonixRadar) used to be avid supporters of the Blinder M20 years ago, mainly because we had to rely on the feedback of people like Radar Roy from radarbusters, John Turner from Tiger Lily products and SML. Once we bought our own test equipment including 3 lidar guns, we found (through our own testing) that not all the results / reviews we had bought into (originally) were 100% accurate.

The GOL seem to be the only independent testing group out there besides ourselves (granted people will jump immediately and say DelonixRadar are not independant since we sell product) but we are not governed by any manufacture's payroll like some other companies are. In fact some retailers have been told they will have their accounts closed (by certain manufactures) if they sell (certain other manufacturer's) products.

For example, we used to sell Blinder M20 - quoting it as the best laser jammer there was. But in our testings, we found that a diode based jammer will work better at closer ranges. And in our testing, the Laser Interceptor was the best. So we changed our recommendations based on these results.

Similar experience with the Conqueror M18. This product has gone through many updates and name changes through it's lifespan. Years ago, the company making this jammer called it the Mimic. Almost every report you read from USA sellers (Radar Roy, John Turner, Carl Fors & Craig Peterson) quoted this jammer as being "crap" - and consequently we based our recommendations on these guy's reviews.

When we were sent an updated version of this jammer (now renamed the Conqueror M18) from the same manufacturer, we were looking forward to "showing how poorly this product worked". Turns out the product does pretty damn good. Actually extremely good considering the price.

And despite claims from one of our competitors that it (the M18) is an old model, the Conqueror M18 was one of the few laser jammers that actually jammerd the latest LTI truspeed in our November 2008 3-day laser jammer test.

The GF100, Anti-Laser G9 and the Laser Pro Park all had zero effect on this laser gun. So we were pretty impressed with (the M18) and therefore, recommend it for those that don't have the budget for a diode based laser jammer.

Hope that helps??

That was a nice thought about those GOL. Its just that I can't believe they're doing it for free. It seems some people even do support them since they're still operational until now.
(07-15-2009, 12:06 PM)Delonix Wrote:
(07-15-2009, 11:59 AM)takatenamano Wrote: but I have to admit, its not like someone will do expensive things like that for free.
Yea I don't agree with that one takatenamano (although, of course, each to their own Smile ) there would be thousands of people in the world doing volunteer work for free - heck, there was even a story on a current affairs show on TV here 2 nights ago about an elderly couple that spend $1000's of their own money treating sick animals in their make shift animal hospital / property.

If you have the passion, you'll do many things for free / with your own money.

These guys love testing these gadgets (I can relate) and they probably also enjoy the small amount of notoriety and respect they now get from doing so.

Well said. Maybe even I should also start doing something that I really like to do for everyone for free. LOL. Did you just say those couple spent $1000 just to cure sick animals? Oh well, at least there's nothing fishy there.
08-09-2009, 09:36 AM,
#6
RE: Guys of Lidar
(07-20-2009, 12:21 AM)nakchura Wrote: Well said. Maybe even I should also start doing something that I really like to do for everyone for free. LOL. Did you just say those couple spent $1000 just to cure sick animals? Oh well, at least there's nothing fishy there.
Yes, they spend their own money in caring for sick animals.....so the TV program/show got together and built them a brand new animal hospital on their property in recognition of the unselfish work they had been doing for years (whilst they sent them on a holiday). It was one of those "feel good" TV programs.
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