Even though a radar detector has the ability to detect laser guns on some occasions, by the time you detect the laser gun, it's already too late - the gun has your speed. And that's assuming your detector does actually pick it up in the first place.
You see unlike a speed radar "beam", a speed laser "beam" is much more tightly focused, with very little of the "laser pulses" going past the car that is actually being targeted.
At 100m from the car, the diameter of the laser beam is only 30cm in diameter!!
At 300m from the car, the diameter is a mere 90cm
So if the laser is aimed at the centre front of your car, there is actually little chance of the beam spilling over your bonnet and hitting your radar detector mounted on the windscreen.
Here's a view from the front at the diameter of the laser beam at 100m, 200, and 300m
100m 200m 300m
You can see from this illustration, that at close ranges, the beam may not even strike your radar/laser detector when mounted on your windscreen, thereby failing to alert you when you car is targeted.
Here is a picture viewed from the scope of a LTI Ultralyte laser gun at 100m, 200m and 300m:
Note: the latter pictures above are blury because we've zoomed in on the photos to show you proportionally the same size car each time.
Again, you can see there is no dispute, the target area is smaller than the actual size of the car. This is why you are not guaranteed to get an alert from your radar detector when your car is targeted at close range.
So the first problem with detecting laser is that your radar/laser detector may not even go off. The second problem is that even if your detector does go off, the laser gun usually has your speed in less than 1 second!
Watch the video below, and see how fast the laser gun gets a speed reading:
Notice when the fifth car is targeted, it doesn't give a reading immediately because the laser is aimed at the windscreen (not a good reflective surfont face to bounce a laser signal back), but once the laser is shifted down towards the front of the vehicle, a reading is obtained.
In the above video your radar detector would have Alerted on laser (since the laser gun was swept across the windscreen) but since a speed reading was still obtained so quickly you still wouldn't have had time to brake.
What Veil does, is give you that time. So instead of getting a reading straight away, the laser gun takes a few seconds to get a reading, meanwhile your radar detector is going nuts! thereby turning your radar detector from a "ticket notifier" into a "ticket preventer".
The chemical compound of Veil is such that masks any reflection of light centred around 904nm - the frequency of all police laser guns. It doesn't matter what make or model of laser gun, any surface that is coated with veil will reduce the laser gun's range dramatically thereby giving your radar detector a fighting chance to warn you in time.
"How can Veil stealth coating help protect against laser?"
Did you know that it takes approximately half a second for a police laser gun to acquire your speed? Sure, most radar detectors on the market have laser detection included as standard, but consider this: First you have to acknowledge a laser alert on your radar detector. Then you have to take your foot off the accelerator and apply the brake. Can you do this in less than half a second every time? It’s highly doubtful. Did the guys down at the car electronics shop that sold you your “top-of-the-range” radar detector mention this? A laser detector is usually, at best, a “speeding ticket notifier”. Watch the video to the left that shows how fast a vehicle's speed is obtained with a laser gun.
Now Meet Veil.
Veil is an invisible protective coating that is applied to the reflective areas of your car; such as the head lights, driving lights, number plate and any chrome on the front bumper. The chemical composition of Veil is made such that it eliminates a reflection of a certain wavelength of light…namely 904nm.
904nm is the wavelength that police laser guns use (an invisible laser beam - which if you’re wondering, is different to that of those red laser pens you see).
Now that you have masked the IR signature of your car, the laser speed gun has a much more difficult time in ‘locking on’ and acquiring your speed. Meanwhile the laser detection circuitry of your radar detector is going nuts, giving you a better chance of slowing down in time.
What is LIDAR and how does it acquire my speed?
LIDAR is an acronym for LIght Detection And Ranging. A police laser (LIDAR) gun emits a highly focused beam of invisible light, in the near infrared region of light, at 904nm of wavelength, with the beam being around 50cm in diameter at a distance of 300m from the laser gun. Unlike RADAR which determines a vehicle's speed by measuring its doppler shift, police laser (lidar) calculates speed by observing the changing amount of time
is takes to "see" reflected pulses of light over a discreet amount of time.
After many hours of testing this product with different cars and different police laser guns, the manufacturers determined five primary contributors to police laser's effectiveness. They are (ranked from most important to least important):
1) Whether a number plate is mounted on the front of a vehicle (mandatory in Australia)
2) The surface-area of headlights, fog lights, and park lights that are positioned on the front of the vehicle.
3) The amount of large sections of chrome that are perpendicular to the road facing the front.
4) The shape of the vehicle - specifically how much of the vehicle is vertical or perpendicular to the road.
5) Finally the colour of the vehicle (white being the easiest to detect) and type of automotive paint (metallic being the easiest to detect.)
Let's examine each one of these factors which contribute to a vehicle's "visibility" to police laser / lidar.
All states in Australia require the use of a front & rear number plates. These plates are usually made of retro-reflective material, and are mounted perpendicular to the road surface, thereby acting as a strong reflector of light energy. The retro-reflective material, which most plates are made from, magnifies or intensifies the amount of reflected light. We have found that even on black cars that have hidden head lights, (such as Porsches) when they have a front-mounted license plate, effective laser targeting range increases as much as four times!
Head/fog lights and park lights are also strong reflectors however they are typically spaced farther apart and since the LIDAR beam only strikes a portion of them at any one time, they are the secondary contributing factor.
Vehicles that have large sections of chrome are easier to target than do vehicles that do not or have complex thin chrome grills with a lot of space in between them.
The frontal shape of a vehicle plays a large role in effecting the targeting range of the laser gun. Porsche’s, RX7’s and many sports cars have steeply raked front-ends that have fewer surfaces that are perpendicular to the road. Therefore, cars which are more aerodynamic looking, are likely to be harder to target with laser as these kinds of vehicles reflect laser light away from the gun source. These types of vehicles stand to benefit the most when ‘VEILed’.
The colour and type of paint contributes to a vehicle's stealth nature. Metallic and/or light cars are easier to target at longer range than darker, non-metallic cars. You may be surprised to see that colour is not higher on the list of importance, however, we have found that all laser guns have improved, since their debut, to the point that the other factors play a more important role in contributing to the overall visual signature to laser. However, darker vehicles will tend to benefit the most when treated with Veil because once the reflected portions are obscured with VEIL, the car's colour will be the only source of any remaining reflectivity.
How can I avoid a Laser speeding ticket?
Drive a darker car!
Seriously, if you happen to own a light-coloured car or 4WD, consider putting a protective bra on the front. These bras are generally black and will reduce the effective targeting range and maximize you chances to avoid laser speeding tickets.
Buy some clear licence plate covers and coat both sides with veil prior to installing over your number plates. If these type of clear plates are prohibited in your state, then simply paint two coats directly over your number plate. Paint all reflective objects (head/fog lights, chrome, park lights).
Your car as seen by the Police laser gun (the red indicates the laser beam)
Another essential device to use is a good radar detector in combination with Veil. But for the ultimate protection against police laser, consider using VEIL in conjunction with a reliable and proven laser jammer. These two products used together will transform your car into a F117 Stealth vehicle!
We road-testing Veil by first driving the target vehicle towards the laser gun from 1000m with the laser gun continuously trying to get a speed reading. Without any laser defences the LTI Ultralyte 100LR speed laser gun was able to get a speed reading at a distance of around 570m.
We then applied Veil to the vehicle, and repeated the test. To our astonishment, we couldn't get a reading AT ALL on the first run. On the second and third runs we were able to get a reading at around 250m
This test showed that we had reduced the range at which the laser gun could acquire a speed from 570m to 250m - a reduction of 55%
Veil also improves your laser jammer's performance by reducing the reflectivity of your car
M25 laser jammer without Veil
M25 laser jammer with Veil
Our second test with Veil was with a Blinder M25 laser jammer. We tested the Blinder M25 with 2 runs targeting from 500m, 2 runs targeting from 300m and 2 runs targeting from 100m distance. We then repeated the test, but with Veil applied to the headlights and front number plate. The results showed that Veil improved the performance of the laser jammer quite dramatically.
1st Run (from 500m)
2nd Run (from 500m)
3rd Run (from 300m)
4th Run (from 300m)
5th Run (from 100m)
6th Run (from 100m)
7th Run (from 100m)
With the exception of the very first run from 500m (without Veil) each and every time the laser gun was able to get a speed reading eventually against the Blinder M25. When we added Veil to the test vehicle, it cut down the distances dramatically and in three cases, we didn't get a speed reading at all.
To us, this concludes that Veil does indeed perform as claimed, giving you added protection from laser guns when used along with a radar detector AND it will improve the performance of your laser jammer - particularly the lower powered jammers such as the Blinder, Escort, Mimic, Laser Mask and the GF100.
Veil Product testing by other companies:
FIELD EVALUATION REPORT
BY SPEED MEASUREMENT LABORATORIES, INC.
Product: Veil Report #: SML0603-31 - Full-Text Field Testing Date: 22 June 03 Report Date: 29 June 2003
Product: Veil is a liquid chemical compound designed to reduce the targeting range of police laser guns when applied to target reflective surfaces of vehicles. Police officers are trained to aim laser guns at license plates or headlights to obtain a speed reading. Seldom is targeting done past 1,000 feet [in the USA, however, European and Asian laser use is frequently at 1000-1500 feet, (300-460 meters)] as legal restrictions in the United States have been placed on targeting ranges of laser guns (see: New Jersey Superior Court ruling 1998, Judge Reginald Stanton). Veil is manufactured by Veil Corporation, 1000 Germantown Pike, Suite C-2, Plymouth Meeting, PA 19462,
Laser Variables: Police laser guns use a 904 nanometer wavelength of monochromatic infrared light transmitted at specific pulse rates. Laser guns compute speed by knowing distance. Distance is known by the time it takes for one pulse to travel to a specific target and reflect back to the laser's guns computer. The computer remembers the time each pulse leaves the gun and is looking f or this specific pulse to return. The color of a target vehicle is a great determinate in the lasers gun's ability to target. Black absorbs all colors, while white reflects all colors. Targeting a white vehicle is very easy for a laser gun even without headlights or a front license plate. A black vehicle is very difficult to target as the vehicle's color absorbs a considerable amount of the laser gun's emissions.
Test Parameters: As with all field evaluations conducted by Speed Measurement Laboratories Inc. (SML) of products, laser guns are only operated by certified police officers. This practice eliminates any claim of impartiality and insures testing credibility. Members of the El Paso Police Department and EI Paso ISD Police Department conducted the test of Veil. The testing was supervised by SML's Dave Adams. Dave is a E.E. wit h twenty-five years experience with laser at White Sands Missile Testing Range. Two different colored vehicles were used, i.e. a light grey Mustang and a black Mitsubishi. Both vehicles were similar in size and shape and the distance of the headlights from the front license plate was the same for both vehicles. Officers operated a Kustom Pro III laser gun from Kustom Signals, Inc. Distance cones were placed at 1/4 mile and 1000 feet. As a baseline for testing the effectiveness of Veil, both test vehicles were targeted by the laser gun at both cones. Both test vehicles had front license plates. A second baseline was established by removing the front license plates and retargeting with the laser gun. In both cases the laser gun had no problem in reporting the exact targeting distance of each vehicle. Veil was then applied to all front reflective surfaces of both vehicles. When applied to the black test vehicle the Veil was effective in reducing the targeting range of the laser gun to 731 feet at the 1/4 mile cone of 1320 feet, almost a 50% reduction in targeting range when aimed at the treated headlight. Due to the light color of the Mustang, Veil did not reduce targeting range when the treated headlight was targeted. A baseline was established on both vehicles removing the front license plate and targeting the vehicle with a license plate cover attached from both distance cones. The laser gun had no problem here. However, when Veil was applied to the license plate cover and no license plate attached, Veil reduced the laser gun's targeting range from 1320 feet to 725.5 feet on the black test vehicle, almost a 50% reduction in the laser gun's targeting ability. Now the license plate was reattached to the front bracket behind the treated license plate cover. In this instance, Veil reduced the laser gun's ability to report a distance reading from the untreated 1,000 foot cone to 767 feet...a targeting reduction of 24% for the black test vehicle. Veil had no effect in target reduction in the light grey test vehicle.
Conclusions: Veil should be used in conjunction with good radar / laser detectors. Field studies consistently report radar detectors will report a laser targeting easily at 1,000 feet. However, when the radar detector notifies the driver of a laser beam presence, it is already too late, even at 1000 feet. This notification means the driver just received a ticket, unless they were using Veil Laser Coatings. As the results show, Veil was effective in reducing a laser gun's ability to target the dark colored vehicle up to 50% in the case of aiming at the treated headlight. This reduction in laser targeting range acquisition afforded by Veil would give a driver with a quality radar/laser detector time to adjust speed until the vehicle came into the effective range of the laser gun. Veil works best on darker vehicles due to the coloration's ability to absorb infrared laser emissions. Even active laser jammers have difficulty in cloaking a white vehicle from laser guns. Light colored vehicles, due to their high reflectivity, are easy prey for laser guns.
All testing parameters were conducted in conjunction with accepted police training and field application practices of using laser guns for speed enforcement.
Results Attested To:
Carl Fors, B.S., M.S.
Speed Measurement Laboratories, Inc.
Fort Worth, Texas.
Federal Communications Commission Licensee
RS Radiolocation KNNN392, IE Business WPJQ839 Certified Radar/Laser Instructor-LES
VEIL VIDEOS - see all our videos here (allow pop-ups)
This video, is a summary of the one underneath. It demonstrates what your car looks like to a police speed laser gun both with and without Veil.
In the first scene there is no Veil on the car. If this was you, even with a radar detector, the laser gun would have had your speed in under a second.
In the second scene, a radar detector in this car WOULD have saved you from a ticket since the Veil paint made it harder to get a speed reading.
This video, filmed in January 2008, shows the before and after results of using Veil with a radar detector. Without Veil the car could be targeted at around 570m away. With Veil applied to the headlights and number plate, this distance was cut down to around 250m.
Funny, but with all the errors attributable to human (cop) and for not following the instructions on correct use of laser-based devices, my veil stealth paint has given me more margin to defend myself from a citation. Lidar has been documented, as well as proven in court, to make large errors attributable to human factors as well as technical due to improper use. It is absolutely one more winnable argument against all the deplorable speed traps employed.
This product performs perfectly when used in tandem with a laser jammer. I use this on my truck with the Escort ZR4s. I am happy with the kind of look it gave my headlights. One laser strike and my Stealth veil gave me 3-4 seconds to slow down. The cop couldn't understand how I got away. Try it.
Good partner with my radar detector, September 12, 2009
Reviewer: darrylfar from San Jose, CA, United States
saw things this way
False Alert Suppression
Gives me a chance against laser traps
Nothing at this point
The Bottom Line
Over-all, it's a great product. Cheaper and it just worked for me.
It added a unique luster on my carpaint and headlights. With my radar detector, it gave me up to 4 seconds edge on cops. Enough time to slow down. Great!
It is best used with my radar detector as an added insurance and additional protection when traveling interstate.
How long will it take to be delivered after I order one?
Delivery time is usually 1-5 business days anywhere in Australia or 5-7 days for New Zealand.
I live in Perth - can I come and pick up my order
Yes - whilst we do not operate a "traditional retail shop", you are more than welcome to visit our office located in South Lake
(Monday - Friday 9am - 4pm).
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