More cameras needed to cut horror road toll: safety chief
increase in the amount of speed and red light cameras is what's needed to
avoid a repeat of last year's horror road fatalities in WA, says Road
Safety Council chairman Grant Dorrington.
Dorrington's statement comes after a 45-year-old Subiaco woman became
Western Australia's 204th and final road fatality for 2006 when her vehicle
left Thomas Rd, in Nedlands, around 11pm on New Year's Eve and smashed into
a tree at high speed. The road toll for 2006 is the highest in 6 years,
since 2000 where 212 people were killed on the roads - an increase by 42
deaths on the previous year despite the high fuel
costs reducing the amount of driving people were doing
said the State Government's plan to cut fatalities on the road should centre
on the introduction of fixed speed cameras on key freeways and highways
Absolutely, because there are SOOOO many crashes on
the freeways and red light cameras at every major intersection,
although the amount of Multanova speed cameras may not necessarily need to
"If you want
to have a safer road system you have got to pay a price,"
Yes, we should all go back to horse and cart Grant.
"Increased enforcement will have an immediate impact."
on the revenue for the state government.
Pft....have a look at the accident figures since speed cameras were
said WA had about 30 red light cameras, 14 Multanovas and few or no fixed
speed cameras. Actually Grant that is zero fixed speed
He declined to
say how many more cameras WA needed but said Victoria's network of several
hundred Multanovas, fixed speed cameras and red light cameras was the best
and deterred dangerous driving.
enforcement will just deter those few people who either don't care, don't
listen or don't give a damn about trying to keep our roads safe," Mr
Police Commissioner Graeme Lienert said harsher penalties for not wearing
seat belts and for speeding offences this year should help cut the road toll
but a big change in drivers' attitudes was needed - some were caught
speeding by 27km/h while towing caravans on New Year's Eve.
Minister John Bowler said there would be restrictions on novice drivers this
year, including bans on night driving for their first six months. He also
listed random roadside drug testing and harsher measures for repeat drink
drivers, including alcohol interlocks on their vehicles.
than 200 killed on WA roads in 2006 - 1/1/07
A woman from Perth, WA was killed when her
vehicle slammed into a tree in Subiaco, taking WA's Xmas / New Year's
traffic fatalities to three.
they observed the 45-year-old lady speeding along Thomas St in Subiaco
around 11.05 in the evening, shortly before her
left the road.
The crash was
so severe that the tree she hit was snapped from its trunk.
The lady died
there at the crash site in what eventuated in being the final accident on WA
roads for 2006.
makes the total fatalities for 2006 being 204 people for WA. This is
42 more than the previous year. It is also the highest since 2000.
You have to question then if all these double
demerits, and speed cameras are working. Clearly they are NOT reducing the
& Community Safety Minister John Bowler stated there had been a 36% rise in
the number of car passengers killed compared with last year, a 57% rise in
the number of pedestrians killed and a 30% increase in the number of
deaths are 204 more than we want, the number of fatalities is still an
improvement on the 1996 figure of 247, the 1998 figure of 223 and the 1999
figure of 218
," Mr Bowler said.
I guess John we always should look on the bright side of life.
camera signs a hazard - 4/1/07
Wade O'Leary, ninemsn.com.au
Sign-posted speed cameras like the image left, could actually make
roads more dangerous, some experts alleged.
Advisor for Road Mr. Ray Shuey told ninemsn.com.au that speed
cameras (such as Gatso & Multanova) have a positive influence on
local drivers, but displaying the speed signs could potentially make
other parts of the road network even more hazardous.
warning follows the disclosure of a 25% drop in speed camera fines
in New South Wales since an assessment of mobile speed cameras in
plain police cars was discarded in 2004. Oh
dear, we're loosing revenue!
If you look at the traffic flow near
exposed speed cameras along the Hume Hwy on the
New South Wales
side, you'll see that many motorists hit the brakes
just prior to the camera zone, then speed up afterwards," he
"It does lower accidents in this area but
then you have to contemplate the collision displacement
effect – has this approach really lowered
Mr Shuey, a former Victorian assistant
police commissioner, cited a 2003 report showing that crash
black spots in the
UK monitored by plain speed cameras reported a 30%
However, the general road death rate in
increased by 2% that same year. His concerns were mutual
with Prof Jack McLean, the director of the Centre for
Automotive Safety Research at Adelaide University.
"The best comparison I can make with
fixed (plain view) speed cameras whose locations are known
is with random breath-testing," he said.
"RBT would not be anywhere near as
effective if it were only done in the same streets and known
"Drink-driving is dangerous wherever you
do it and so is speeding." Not
according to the two police officers whom were late to a
meeting, caught doing 160km/h (see
the story below)
A strategy of hiding all speed cameras is
opposed by the
New South Wales
Council for Civil Liberties, with council
vice-president David Bernie stating that speed camera
warning signs by and large do change driver behaviour in a
"That achieves the desired outcome of
people driving slower where they should be, rather than it
all being just a revenue-raising exercise," he said.
"So if you're discussing lowering the
numbers of speeding drivers and reducing the death toll,
then we'd have to say that plain view speed cameras is the
A battle against visible speed camera
warning signs has been argued by Pedestrian Council of
Australia chairman Mr. Harold Scruby.
Mr. Scruby states a "Monash University
Accident Research Centre" study that suggests a mix of
hidden speed cameras and a high-profile awareness campaign
can reduce the number of fatalities on the road. Note
he says "can" not "will".
Victoria has Australia's lowest
per-capita road fatalities of 6.6 deaths per 100,000 people
whilst using hidden cameras only, compared to the NSW rate
of 7.6 per 100,000
Mr. Shuey states the effect of open speed
camera warning signs in simpler terms: "You'd only get a
dill caught speeding in those areas, but they will just take
a risk in other areas."
Sydney's faulty speed cameras exposed
have new grounds to appeal and challenge speeding fines after an intensive
investigation by National Nine News showed 100's of faults in Sydney’s
(fixed) speed cameras.
A 4 month long National Nine News investigation discovered that 568 faults
in total had been identified during 7,500 tests on the
accuracy of the NSW's
117 fixed speed cameras.
The Roads Traffic Authority (RTA) claims that no motorist was wrongly fined
as a result of the speed camera faults (Yea right,
what bollocks) but speed camera lawyers say the never before released
maintenance records will be used to initiate new challenges to speeding
The RTA's Fixed Speed Camera Testing Records revealed that the day-to-day
operations of speed cameras were suspended almost 200 times to replace old
road sensors and when speed measuring systems failed, power was cut or there
were other camera technical problems.
The RTA also admits other faults, including camera flashes that didn't work,
photograph quality issues & camera electronics problems, happened dozens of
times and caused the investigation and possible withdrawal of speeding
offences which had been alleged.
"It shows we have a very rigorous testing regime," offered the RTA's Alec
Brown. Spoken like a true CEO covering his own
arse, what does Alec really think we are that stupid.
"No maintenance issues led to any speed measurement errors in the last
year." Prove it Alec.
But lawyer, Dennis Miralis, who makes his living fighting speed camera
fines, says it's the 1st time the RTA has publicly admitted issues regarding
could cause the withdrawal of speeding fines.
"We are talking about 10's of 1000's of drivers who are effected by these
sorts of issues — drivers which the RTA now are publicly acknowledging
could lead to the inappropriate issuing of a speeding fine and the
consideration of the withdrawal of a ticket."
"These cameras are not invincible, these cameras are subject to error."
The investigation also found that the RTA doesn't routinely compile a
list of the camera faults it's inspectors discover.
Wouldn't want that list getting out boys would you!!
Under Freedom of Information laws, National Nine News put in a request for 3
years of reports on the maintenance and accuracy of their speed cameras.
They were told by the RTA it would take a staff member 4 years to compile
the information and cost $246,000. Well that sounds
like the speed of a government RTA employee
The request was refused by the RTA's records access unit on the grounds it
was an "unreasonable diversion of resources." It
so so hard in the days of computers and databases to believe that this
information would take 4 years and cost $246,000 - yet it's OK to
spend thousands auditing more than
700,000 statutory declarations over the past three years by the State
Debt Recovery Office in light of "the Einfield case"...pft
N.S.W. Policeman escapes
his drink driving charge
New South Wales police are investigating allegations that a fellow
policeman escaped his drink-driving charge because his fellow
coppers failed to file the proper court documents in time.
case against Police Constable Mark Joseph Smith, age 29, was thrown
out of the Downing Centre Local Court last Tues because the police
lodged a court attendance notice 21 days late, News Ltd newspapers
allegedly driving with a blood alcohol reading (BAR) of 0.195 -
almost four times the legal limit - when police stopped him in
Raglan St, of Manly, at 3am Australian Eastern Standard Time on
April 14th of this year.
Downing Centre Local Court was told that the relative documents
should have been lodged within 7 days of the offence but in effect,
they had not been lodged until May the 14th (three weeks late).
NSW Police Minister John Watkins said Police Commissioner Ken Moroney
are apparently "personally looking into the case".
referred the matter to the professional standards command within NSW
Police for investigation," Mr Watkins told Southern Cross
investigation is automatically overseen by the Police Integrity
think that's the right way to go, and we should now await that
investigation's outcome." he said.
Beware of the scams! - more radar detectors being 're-badged' and
the main reasons I launched this website was I was pissed at the
number of BS sites selling drivers misinformation. Now whilst I
won't get into a competitor bashing contest (that has already gone on
over the internet) I do like to point out key distinctions so you
may draw your own conclusions before handing over your hard-earned
money to one of these scam-artists.
particular website is offering a radar detector (all over the world,
each sales page is modified to suit that country) sold as the "beat
the speed trap" or BTST detector. They are also being
the Australian market via the website
look at the picture, then have a look at the Quintezz XT7000 radar detector
you can clearly see it is the same unit retailing or
£149 in the UK yet being offered for sale for $700 Aus.
Wow...all that extra mark-up and I get a BTST sticker on a Quintezz
Clearly these type of people do not care about their customers, they
just pump out as many as they can before the word gets out.
fact the story behind this particular unit is that they wanted to
get rid of them before the laws changed in the UK banning the sale
of these types of units....read the following:
A speed camera detection vendor is discounting its
stock of radar detectors before they become illegal. In defiance to
the proposed law likely to take effect next year, the supplier has
announced it will immediately dispose of all remaining stock at a
cut price to those who quote ‘I hate speed cameras’ at time of
Mark Cornwall of Car Parts Direct said, "Whilst
the ‘I hate speed cameras’ campaign may seem like childish humour,
the issue is a very serious one – speed cameras have ruined
motorists’ lives with no real improvement to road safety. Once our
device is outlawed more drivers will lose their licence. Once our
current stock has gone a motorist won’t be able to buy a Quintezz –
at any price."
The Quintezz speed camera spotter is designed
to detect all Gatso and Laser speed cameras including the hidden
mobile cameras that most devices cannot detect. Car Parts Direct has
also guaranteed to pay £60 cashback to any user that receives a
speeding ticket while their unit is fitted – a unique guarantee not
offered by any other supplier of speed camera detectors.
The detector plugs in to the cigarette lighter
socket and slides on to the dashboard. It alerts the driver by a
series of lights and bleeps to any Gatso or laser frequency. It
plugs in and it’s ready to go and there is no subscription to pay or
updating required. While the company said false alerts are likely at
traffic lights and supermarket doors, most users consider this a
small inconvenience compared to losing a driving licence.
The Quintezz device normally sells for £199.
Just put ‘I hate speed cameras’ in the box when asked for any other
information relevant to the order and get £50 off from the price,
paying just £149.
you decide to buy a radar detector, make sure it has been reviewed
on either radartest.com or speedzones.com
yesterday I was speaking with someone who's mate liked the idea of
the speeding fine rebate being offered by Rocky Mountain radar detectors
in the US.
"..yea but they will pay your fine if you get caught"
can companies offer this claim if their products don't perform?
Rocky Mountain Radar (RMR) offers such a "ticket
rebate program" to the purchasers of its radar products. It is a
nice catch phrase that makes the potential buyer conclude that the
product performance must be pretty good to offer such a claim. Is
this ticket rebate program just a come-on to convince a novice buyer
that the product must be the best thing since sliced bread, or does
this claim truly represent the performance of the products, or is it
a calculated risk offered by the companies to get
customers to buy products? Here are Ticket Rebate Terms from Rocky
Mountain Radar and some, if not all, of its distributors for RMR
passive radar jammers:
The following restrictions apply to the ticket rebate program.
Either the product works
or it doesn't. Their rebate program makes you jump through a lot of
small hoops!! Why is that necessary?
Most potential customers of Passive Scramblers do
not ask what must be provided to get a claim paid after you receive
a ticket. Take a look at the details of this so-called ticket rebate
program. Notice the fine print about not honoring the ticket rebate
if you were caught driving above a certain speed over the posted
limit, or above a certain percentage above the posted limit, or if
the ticket does not specifically state "radar" or "laser".
Suffice it to say, if this manufacturer can't
prove that his products work, and you use them, you WILL get
at least one radar/laser ticket if you travel too fast too often. If
you do get a rebate of $100, you may have paid $300 for the product,
so the manufacturer would still have a good portion of your funds.
Are you wondering "then why do they offer this $100 ticket rebate if
what they sell does not work?" Well think about it. You sell an item
costing perhaps $20.00 for $300.00. If you send the customer
back $100, you are still ahead of the game $180.00.
do your homework, does the product appear on radartest.com or
speedzones.com and please email or phone us if you have any
showdown over speed ticket - 20/11/06
John Kidman, The Sun-Herald,
top end crime command detectives and their highway patrol colleagues are
facing off in court over a bizarre speeding fine dispute. What a way to
spend tax payers money!
Police sources allege two officers from the New South Wales firearms squad
were recently booked at nearly 160kmh in a 100kmh speed zone whilst
traveling in tandem in unmarked patrol cars on the state's Mid North Coast.
While admitting they were not speeding to an emergency, the officers are
alleged to have justified to the highway patrol officer that they were
running late for an early morning briefing with senior police officers at
Unfortunately, they again justified, budget restrictions had forced them to
drive directly to the meeting from Sydney as opposed to staying the night
before at a local motel.
The highway patrol officer allegedly accepted the excuse but then changed
his mind later, issuing the two officers with fines for exceeding the speed
limit by more than 45kmh.
Under normal circumstances, the speeding offence carries a $1589 fine and
the loss of 6 demerit points, but if convicted in a court, the maximum
penalty could be a total of $2200 in fines and a 6 month driver's licence
It is believed at least one of the detectives will argue that the fines were
unlawful because they were issued later, rather than on the spot.
Try using that one in "normal circumstances"
She is also expected to claim that the highway patrolman phoned the firearms
squad office in Sydney some hours later, in order to confirm her identity.
Whilst aware of the case,
Bob Pritchard -
NSW Police Association president announced on
Tuesday that he was "unable to comment" except to say that he had been asked
to attend and speak to detectives at a closed meeting on Thursday.
"What I was there to achieve was address members about their entitlements
under the association's financial legal assistance scheme," Mr Pritchard
The controversy follows one of the NSW top detectives being booked and fined
for using his mobile phone (no hands free) whilst driving behind the wheel,
in April of this year.
It was later revealed that Detective Senior Constable Paul Quigg had
answered a call from a colleague on behalf of his boss, State Crime
Commander Graeme Morgan, when he was seen by a passing highway patrol car.
The moral of the story:
Speeding is dangerous, unless you’re a
police officer late for a meeting.
more they fiddle, the longer the road toll stays the same -
source: Harold Scruby
Back in 1995 the premier Bob Carr, and his roads minister, Carl
Scully, proudly launched their ambitious program called "Road Safety
2000" stating that New South Wales would have the safest roads in
the world with less than 500 deaths and 5500 injuries on the roads
the millennium came around, the NSW annual road toll was in excess
of 600 fatalities.
Scully quietly dumped the Road Safety 2000 program faster than a
extraterrestrial explanation given by Moulder and launched "Road
Safety 2010" campaign instead, boasting a saving of 820 lives by the
year 2005 and 2000 lives by the year 2010.
the end of 2005 the road fatalities in NSW had not dropped below
Now, not only has the NSW Government moved the goal posts but they
have changed their shape as too! The NSW Gov have benched the
globally agreed "deaths per hundred thousand of population"
measurement and instead have committed to reducing "vehicle crash
deaths per 100 million vehicle kilometres travelled".
clever little change has given the government some extra variables
that will artificially change the results they are promoting.
For example with petrol prices rising, people will travel less or
use more public transport, so there will be a fall in the number of
road deaths, even though there has been no change in road safety
In 2003, the year of the most recent data available from the
Australian Transport Safety Bureau, the NSW rate of motor vehicle
crash fatalities per 100 million kilometres travelled by vehicles
was 0.89, which is the second highest of all Australian
states and higher than the overall Australian average rate of 0.81
There are other suspect practices by the government, in NSW for
example, the RTA and police have a nice little arrangement called
the "enhanced enforcement program" or EEP. Last year the RTA
gave the NSW police approximately $8 million dollars to pay for
their overtime whilst the police conducted road safety enforcement
operations - in other words speed enforcement, random breath testing
and other traffic duties
whilst it's agreed the police should be paid for their overtime,
heck give them a pay rise, such suspect payments compromise the
independence of the police and how and where they carry out their
payments in effect, enable the Minister for Roads to dictate how,
when and where the police operate these traffic duties. The
effectiveness of these methods has not been independently
course the police won't criticize the Road Traffic Authority because
actually getting paid for your overtime is appealing, particularly
when their pays are in desperate need of review.
payment for overtime should come from the Treasury, not the RTA and
the high road fatalities can in theory, be partly blamed on the NSW
Police association due to its opposition to modern work practices
and technologies that would reduce road trauma significantly and
improve the safety of its members.
SPEED CAMERA TEST KILLS MOTORIST - 14th November 2006
An elderly man died and his wife seriously injured after a head-on
collision with a UK police car being driven by a policeman testing a
new speed measurment device.
The two Lancashire patrol cars, with one traveling behind the other,
were testing out a new speed device called Vascar, which calculates
the speed of a target vehicle. The police had not used the Vascar
prior, and were evaluating it's effectiveness.
The elderly couple, Peter and Jean Williams, were both retired from
work, and were driving their VW Touran vehicle on their way to a
holiday in the Yorkshire Dales. The two patrol cars rounded a bend
during the middle of the day and the lead patrol car hit the
Mr Williams suffered extensive chest and leg injuries, and
subsequently died the next day in hospital. Mrs Williams is still
alive with multiple fractures and is still in hospital.
The horrific accident happened on the B6254 road in between Arkholme
and Over Kellet, close to Lancaster on Thurs 2nd of Nov. Locals
state it is a road with sudden dips that often block the view ahead,
and a site of many accidents prior.
Both the police car drivers had completed their advanced training
courses in driving a vehicle, although the Police offered no comment
as to why such testing wasn't more suited to a much safer road than
a known accident area.
Photo Camera fines Blind Man - 12/11/06
In the UK a 42 year old blind and deaf man has received a speeding
fine in the mail from a speed camera aka photo radar. UK traffic
enforcement claim the man was caught on camera traveling at 36 mph
on a 30 mph limit road. The speeding ticket issued includes a fine
amount of £60 ($148 AUD), and 3 demerit points against his driver's
license (interesting enough he doesn't have a driver's licence,
being a little hard to obtain when his blind dog failed the driving
man and his wife state they were 250 km away from the alleged
location of the speed camera at the time of incident when the camera
allegedly snapped his wife's car, registered in his name.
many areas where police use speed cameras, they are suppose to check
the actual photo of the speeder in the car against the registered
owner's photograph on his or her driver's licence.
photograph from the speed camera matches the registered owner's
photograph a ticket is then sent by mail, but if it doesn't match
the registered owner, a letter is sent out asking for the
identification of the driver at the time.
hard when we are now being photographed from behind...
source: Andrew Cummins
A 16yo Northern Territory boy was taking his driving lessons with
his father when the pair were involved in an accident on the Stuart
Highway approximately nineteen km south of Katherine last night.
The boy, whom was driving a Mitsubishi Pajero vehicle, was believed
to have taken his eyes off the road to glance at the car's
speedometer. In doing this, his car drifted onto the opposite side
of the road towards oncoming traffic. The young boy then attempted
to correct the Pajero's path but lost control of the vehicle,
causing it to roll.
The incident occurred at approximately 7pm.
Both the boy driving and his father, were treated for minor injuries
but since have been discharged from the local hospital.
Considerable damage to the Mitsubishi Pajero was inflicted due to
the incident and Northern Territory Police, Fire and Rescue Service
and St John’s Ambulance attended the scene.
[Granted the boy was young and inexperienced, but this shows you the
danger of becoming a society fixated on the speedometer rather than
the road conditions ahead]
Speed demons - 13/11/06
source: Jessica Johnston
TWIN cities residents have a $3000-a-day addiction to speeding.
Drivers have tallied up over a million dollars in speeding traffic
fines over the past financial year. 30 drivers have their
photos taken speeding past cameras in North QLD every day, according
to the latest police statistics. A total of 10,904 "speed
demons" [note how they have been labelled as
"demons" - even though we are not told how fast over the limit they
were travelling - as some speed cameras are set to trigger 3km/h
over the limit, which by the way is LESS than the error
tolerance of both the speed camera itself and the car's speedometer]
were caught by speed cameras in the northern police region last
financial year – a huge 21% increase on the previous year.
[if we have a 21% increase in speeding fines,
then speed cameras are NOT DOING what the government & police are
preaching their use for!] More than five times as many
tickets were issued than in 2004-05, when 8982 drivers were caught.
And that was just the fixed cameras.
Northern Region Traffic co-ordinator Inspector Brian Richardson
warned if you were speeding you would get caught. "The
increase in fines by about 2000 is obviously concerning,"
[YES speed cameras are NOT WORKING
- but hey, we like the tax it brings in, heck we've even written it
into our budgets, so we aren't going to remove them] Insp
Richardson said. "However I would say a lot could be
attributed to the fact were have moved the cameras to different
sites in the last year." Insp Richardson said three cameras
were planted on northern roads every day. "These cameras work
around the clock, day and night. Where they are deployed is
generated through traffic crash data. But we always have one in
Townsville, one between Bowen and Ingham and another in the Mount
Isa region and Flinders Highway," he said.
Insp Richardson said police planted the cameras in 353 different
sites in the northern region. He said a Queensland Transport
computer system was used to pick the hot-spots, based on data such
as traffic crashes. [Another statement
that can easily be proven wrong. They are placed to maximise
revenue, only a few are placed at accident black spots] "A
further 101 new sites were added over the last year, based on
up-to-date information. This may have accounted for some of the
increase in detection." Insp Richardson said police also had
the handheld 'hairdryer' radar guns and mobile radars on their cars
as part of their speed-curbing arsenal.
Townsville drivers were also shown to be consistent red-light
runners. Four drivers were caught by red-light cameras every
day -- the same number as the previous year. And the number of
deaths skyrocketed along with speeding offences. A total of 28
people died, 318 required hospitalisation, 266 needed medical
treatment and another 165 sustained minor injuries after crashes on
North Queensland roads. There were three more deaths than the
year before. [so not only are there more
speeding fines being issued, there are more deaths on our roads! Why
can't we band together and have these revenue raisers removed as
they are not achieving their purpose as stated by politicians and
However, Insp Richardson said he believed speed cameras were still
effective deterrents. [translation - still
effective revenue raisers] "They are a very effective
deterrent. When you look at the year they were introduced there was
a significant drop in fatalities," he said.
[What about each and every year since!! **sigh** you don't state
those facts do you] "It was a positive intervention that
reduced death, not only in Queensland, but Australia-wide when
introduced." He said traffic police worldwide would continue
to consider new interventions to prevent road deaths.
[safe motoring yes, tough on speed demons
yes, but there is a vast difference between being fined for doing
107km/h on a 100km/h straight highway in very light traffic and an
idiot travelling at 70km/h in a 50km/h zone or school zone.
Shouldn't we be concentrating on the road and conditions, rather
than fixating on our speedometers - which the RAC state have a
tolerance of 10% to account for the wear & pressure changes in our
tyres. How many speed cameras are in school zones? How many on
busy highways? I rest my case]
arrested over alleged traffic fine scam - 13/11/06
120 people in total have been arrested across the state of NSW over
a scam whereby they allegedly used false names in statutory
declarations to police for driving and parking offences occurred.
Strike Force Kindilan was established in September of this year
after a special audit by the State Debt Recovery Office had
identified 238 people as allegedly giving a false name on stat decs
to avoid monetary fines for speeding and other traffic or parking
An operation over the weekend led to 120 arrests being made on
people and so far, 76 of these arrests had been charged with a total
of 150 different offences, police revealed today.
All were given bail to appear at a later date in court.
Police have explained that the persons gave false declarations in
one of two ways; either putting down the name of a deceased person,
or a resident of someone else who was in another state - for their
"These offences constitute fraud and, if proven guilty, could land
the offenders with harsh penalties including imprisonment," said
Superintendent Daryl Donnolley said today.
Further arrests are expected as the investigation continues.
Rural Press Interactive
Police Association of NSW has called for a state-wide forbiddance on
the use of hand held radar during traffic work following the weekend
death of a highway POLICE officer.
A representative for the association declared that the action placed
excessive threats on officers and there had been a number of
accidents since 2000 involving Police officers in this line of work.
The representative said there needed to be "an urgent review
state-wide" of hand held radar police work.
NSW Commissioner of Police, Ken Moroney, has paid tribute to the
officer who died on the weekend after being stricken by a Four-wheel
drive vehicle at Somersby.
Senior Constable Peter Gordon Wilson, known to his fellow officers
as Gordon, aged 41, worked with the Brisbane Water Highway Patrol.
The Policeman suffered grievous injuries at the accident scene and
was later taken by ambulance to Gosford Hospital where he later
Commissioner Moroney expressed his deepest condolences and offered
support to the family of Senior Constable Wilson - his partner,
Kylie, and "in particular his three children".
"All police officers in the field face grave dangers every day in
the field and this is a tragic reminder of the very nature of police
work," police commissioner Moroney said.
Senior Constable Wilson was conducting radar traffic duties on the
F3 highway about 6.45pm on Sat evening when he was struck by a
Mitsubishi Pajero Four-wheel drive being driven north.
While investigations continue into the exact circumstances of the
accident, police have been told the Four-wheel drive may have been
hit from the rear by a another vehicle, a black Toyota Hilux utility
before it was pushed onto the Police officer.
Both vehicles have been seized by Polce investigations for
mechanistic examinations and the drivers of the vehicles have been
interviewed by investigators.
As of this time there has been no charges laid and inquiries are
continuing by Police officers from the Metropolitan Crash
A report is presently being prepared for the coroner.
In the meantime QLD police are also mourning the loss of one of
their own officers after a road smash in NSW on the weekend.
Queensland Police Commissioner, Bob Atkinson this afternoon said he
and all members of the QLD Police Service were very saddened to hear
the tragical word that a 42-year-old Queensland Police Officer had
been killed in a road accident near Coffs Harbour over the weekend.
Detective Sergeant Stewart Kerlin, a member of the Argos Taskforce,
was killed when two cars and a truck collided on the Pacific Highway
near Woolgoolga, Twenty-five kilometres north of Coffs Harbour just
about 10am Sat morning.
Also injured in the collision was 43-year-old Detective Senior
Constable Paul Meese, also from the Argos Taskforce. It is believed
he is in a unchanging condition in Coffs Harbour Hospital. The two
officers were traveling to a number of locations close to New South
Wales as part of an on-going investigation.
NSW Police are investigating the circumstances surrounding this
morning's crash. No doubt, they will once again label it as speed
being the major contributing factor.
Commissioner Atkinson said Detective Sergeant Kerlin was an
outstanding and respected member of the QLD Police Service, and his
sudden death will be a tragic loss, not only to his colleagues at
State Crime, but to the QLD Police Service.
"On behalf of the QLD Police Service I convey my deepest sympathies
to the family of Detective Police sergeant Kerlin during this
"I would also like to wish a speedy and complete recuperation to
Police detective Senior Constable Meese and the 60-year-old woman
who was a rider in one of the other vehicles involved in the
accident," Mister Atkinson said.
LANDMARK SPEEDING CASE GOES TO COURT - 25/10/06
Source: pistonheads.com (picture by speedcam.co.uk)
Is the use of civilians with speed cameras illegal?
If the police don't book you for speeding, then a local
'speed-watch' civilian will. But perhaps that's about to change in
the UK and it could cost the Government a huge amount of money in
refunded speeding fines.
A UK businessman is challenging a speeding ticket on the foundation
that a civilian using the speed camera device on which the citation
is based upon is unqualified to take an initial view on whether he
was speeding or not. He argues that a police officer, however, is
both trained and empowered in law to do just that, while civilians
certainly are not. [I have been asking this
question for years]
The case is based on a loophole in the UK Police Reform Act of 2002
which allowed the police to employ civilians. But it didn't however
give civilians the legal right to catch and book speeding drivers,
according to website pepipoo.co.uk, which is supporting the accused
Pipipoo's originator Mike Morgan will speak on behalf of the accused
man at Devizes Magistrates' Court. He said that in his mind, there
is no doubt the law is being broken by using civilians to man and
operate speed cameras.
He told the Mail on Sunday: "Police officers are deemed to be
officers of the Crown and, as such, are considered to be able to
form what is known as a prior opinion of excess speed - in other
words to get a visual check of the speeding car. The speed camera or
other speed measurement device provides the secondary opinion - but
one is not valid without the other. We have engaged top legal advice
and it is agreed that there is NO Act of Parliament that gives any
civilian speed camera operator the empowerment to give evidence as
primary for speed tickets - only a policeman can do that."
The use of civilians operators with radar speed guns is also patchy,
with the Met and Thames Valley eschewing their use but 11 of them,
including Cambridgeshire, Hampshire, and Dorset, do so.
The police offered no comment on the matter.
D'Orazio forced to go as
MPs voice disgust
Alan Carpenter was effectively
sidelined yesterday by angry Labor MPs who pressured John
D'Orazio to quit Cabinet over the speeding fine scandal - less
than 24 hours after the Premier allowed him to stay.
Mr D'Orazio took the decision out of Mr Carpenter's hands after
talking to backbench and ministerial colleagues who were angry
he had been allowed to stay in Cabinet.
Mr Carpenter demoted - but did not sack - Mr D'Orazio on Monday
after it emerged he had been driving for two months without a
licence for not paying speeding fines.
Many backbenchers said they were disgusted with the way that Mr
Carpenter had handled the issue.
The former police and justice minister said he was resigning
because he realised that he was causing the Government too much
damage by remaining in Cabinet.
"The reason I'm (going to resign) is because the distractions of
the last couple of days is now affecting the Government and it's
affecting the standing of the Premier," he said. "The
circumstances are such that the damage that it's doing to the
Government and the Premier is unacceptable."
Mr D'Orazio failed to pay two on-the-spot speeding fines in
August and October last year, subsequently lost his driver's
licence on February 22 and was involved in a car crash on April
21 while his licence was suspended.
He said reminder notices were sent to an old address and he was
unaware that a cheque sent to the Department of Planning and
Infrastructure to pay the first fine had not been accepted. Mr
D'Orazio regained his driver's licence on April 24 when a
resident at his former address dropped off the reminder notices
to his electorate office, coincidentally three days after his
crash in Subiaco, and the outstanding fines were paid.
Earlier this year, it was revealed that the former pharmacist
had failed to pay superannuation contributions to staff at his
chemist shop. That was only days after The West Australian
revealed Mr D'Orazio as the man who had been referred to as the
"Godfather" at a Corruption and Crime Commission hearing last
The Opposition raised questions about Mr Carpenter's lack of
leadership in allowing the latest D'Orazio matter to drag on for
Opposition Leader Paul Omodei said Mr Carpenter had displayed
weak leadership by not sacking Mr D'Orazio when he first was
told of the latest indiscretion on Thursday, the day before Mr
D'Orazio announced new speeding fines for drivers.
"The message to the public is a poor one," he said. "If you are
a Labor minister you can drive without a licence but if
you are an ordinary person, you will be penalised. The Premier
should have sacked him immediately. By falling on his sword, Mr
D'Orazio has saved him the job."
The frustration and anger of many Labor MPs over the latest
scandal was evident as they made their way into a caucus
yesterday morning with many backbenchers set to demand answers
from both Mr D'Orazio and Mr Carpenter.
Some, including Kimberley MLA Carol Martin, said Mr D'Orazio's
resignation was a day late. Many expressed their eagerness to
discuss the matter, describing the driving without a licence
incident as "disappointing", "embarrassing", "unfortunate" and
The West Australian understands that Mr D'Orazio phoned a
number of ministerial colleagues on Monday night and Tuesday
morning seeking their advice, which was overwhelmingly to
Mr D'Orazio did not offer his resignation when the scandal was
revealed on Monday and Mr Carpenter apparently did not force the
issue, saying the indiscretion did not warrant Mr D'Orazio's
dismissal from Cabinet.
Mr Carpenter said he assumed Mr D'Orazio would pay for the
damage to his ministerial car resulting from the crash.
Jockeying for the spare Cabinet spot has already begun with Swan
Hills MLA Jaye Radisich, a member of the New Right faction, the
first to declare her interest. Members of her faction will argue
the post should go to the New Right, where Mr D'Orazio is from.
Upper House MP Adele Farina and Riverton MP Tony McRae were
yesterday assessing their support to run for the ministerial
to cop trebled fines and more demerit points
The West Australian
Speeding fines are to treble and drivers
guilty of other offences will be hit with increased demerit
points as part of a shake-up of traffic penalties to be
announced by the State Government as early as this weekend.
The West Australian understands the penalty for
travelling more than 40kmh over the limit will leap from $350 to
more than $1000, bringing it in line with tough penalties in the
Eastern States. The penalty for speeding up to 9kmh over the
limit will double from $50 to $100. [note
this can include 3km/h over the limit for Multanovas - less than
the 10% tolerance stated by the RAC for speedometers based on
tyre wear and pressure]
Fines for using a mobile phone without an approved hands-free
kit will jump from $100 to $300 with demerit points trebling to
Other lesser traffic offences will be downgraded after the Road
Safety Council recommended that fines and penalties be based on
the collision risk factor associated with each particular
offence. The West Australian understands penalties for
some pedestrian offences, such as crossing a road within the
vicinity of a red light, will fall.
Council chief Grant Dorrington said yesterday penalties
associated with incidents that could lead to death on the roads
should be higher.
Police Minister John D'Orazio refused to detail increases in
penalties or demerit points.
But in his strongest hint that fines are due to rise, he said
there had been no substantial increase in traffic fines since
"The Office of Road Safety commissioned a review in 2004," he
said yesterday. "That report has concluded and I'll make some
announcements at the appropriate time of what those outcomes
The report was presented to Mr D'Orazio two months ago. It has
not been released publicly.
Senior traffic police have been frustrated for years that
speeding penalties in WA are outdated and not a big enough
Opposition road safety spokesman John McGrath said Mr D'Orazio's
comments were inappropriate when there had been 64 deaths on WA
roads this year, more than in the same period in the previous
"The Police Minister has been totally negligent in his duty in
sitting on the report when we have had too many deaths on WA
roads in the first four months this year," he said.